Learning Ostomy

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I must not be doing this right with the Eakin Seal.  I even had an ET nurse put one on me last time she came. My problem is that the seal adds some height underneath the flange and creats a small "tent" effect, such that the flange doesn’t sit completely flush on my skin  (just after the outer edge of the Eakin).  Usually within a day, my flange lifts from the outside right upto the Eakin.  I should mention that I can not use tape, so I use the New Image Series also. My next idea is to try the Eakin again, however this time I am going to cut the thing down to less than half its size ( giving the flange a greater surface to stick to ). "Lauren-n-n-n-n" <saxc…@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message

news:20030604210659.06805.00000635@mb-m19.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Do Eakins seals work with Hollister products or is this a different line? > i use eakin seals with hollister new image 2 pieces and i don’t have any > problems.  you can use eakin seals with anything, even tho they’re distrubuted > by convatec. > Lauren! > (take out the "nojunk" to reply) > beer drinking, sax playing, baseball junkie on a rampage … beware!

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i use half a small eakin seal.  i roll it in a little snake, then flatten it out a little around the hole of my appliance.  after i put the bag on, i lay down and hold my hand over my stoma for a few minutes to warm up the eakin seal and have it melt down nicely. give that a try. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I must not be doing this right with the Eakin Seal.  I even had an ET nurse >put one on me last time she came. >My problem is that the seal adds some height underneath the flange and >creats a small "tent" effect, such that the flange doesn’t sit completely >flush on my skin  (just after the outer edge of the Eakin).  Usually within >a day, my flange lifts from the outside right upto the Eakin.  I should >mention that I can not use tape, so I use the New Image Series also. >My next idea is to try the Eakin again, however this time I am going to cut >the thing down to less than half its size ( giving the flange a greater >surface to stick to ). >"Lauren-n-n-n-n" <saxc…@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message >news:20030604210659.06805.00000635@mb-m19.aol.com… >> >Do Eakins seals work with Hollister products or is this a different line? >> i use eakin seals with hollister new image 2 pieces and i don’t have any >> problems.  you can use eakin seals with anything, even tho they’re >distrubuted >> by convatec. >> Lauren! >> (take out the "nojunk" to reply) >> beer drinking, sax playing, baseball junkie on a rampage … beware!

Lauren! (take out the "nojunk" to reply) beer drinking, sax playing, baseball junkie on a rampage … beware!

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That is exactly what I do and have been doing it this way for about a year.

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Yes, try using just half of a small Eakin Seal instead of the whole seal. I put the seal on in a flattened ring around my stoma, pretty snug to the stoma. Then I put the wafer on (you might want to try a wafer with convexivity). I heat everything with a hairblower to warm it up. When I put the wafer on, I press it very snugly to my abdoment and hold it firmly for about 60 seconds. I also wear a NuHope elastic belt which has a hole in it big enough to fit around the flange of my appliance, which presses everything snugly to my abdomen for about about 30 minutes after changing. I have no problems, and I, too, don’t use tape.

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If you use a belt that attaches to the flange or one of the hernia wide belts the flange will not lift. Rob DARKCITY wrote: > I must not be doing this right with the Eakin Seal.  I even had an ET nurse > put one on me last time she came. > My problem is that the seal adds some height underneath the flange and > creats a small "tent" effect, such that the flange doesn’t sit completely > flush on my skin  (just after the outer edge of the Eakin).  Usually within > a day, my flange lifts from the outside right upto the Eakin.  I should > mention that I can not use tape, so I use the New Image Series also. > My next idea is to try the Eakin again, however this time I am going to cut > the thing down to less than half its size ( giving the flange a greater > surface to stick to ).

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Hi, Looking for some advice about being in the heat and keeping my flange from melting.  We are leaving next week for Disney World with the kids.  I have had my ileostomy for 15 years and still struggle with the summer thing. I have found when it is hot and we are out and about for the whole day in the heat my flange melts.  I was wondering who out there can give me some help.  I have picked up so many great ideas from this group.  I was also wondering if anybody had any tips on feeling comfortable while wearing a bathing suit and swimming.  Especially those water parks. Even though I am old hat at this ostomy thing, I am always open to new ideas. . Please feel free to e-mail me as well as post to the group. Thanks, Lori CD class of 1980

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I lived in the Tampa area when I had my Ileo operation and was introduced to the Eakin Seals which I use all of the time and found that they held up under the Florida heat. I lived there year round so was exposed to the summer and had no problems when I used the Eakin Seals.

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Do Eakins seals work with Hollister products or is this a different line?  I’m new to this and now that it has gotten warmer, the Hollister seals are only lasting about two days.  Is this normal?  thanks

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My sister is also an Ileo. When she lived in Arizona, she used to drape a washcloth on her underwear, hanging in front of her pouch. She always said it would keep the blazing heat of the sun off her flange, especially when the Arizona sun would be mercilessly coming in thru the car windshield. Best— Ron We don’t get that much blazing sun here in Chicago. We build up flange heat while running away from muggers  <grin> I gotta "good" sense of "Hoooomer" LPlung <lpl…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20030603235631.15024.00000392@mb-m14.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > Looking for some advice about being in the heat and keeping my flange from > melting.  We are leaving next week for Disney World with the kids.  I have had > my ileostomy for 15 years and still struggle with the summer thing. > I have found when it is hot and we are out and about for the whole day in the > heat my flange melts.  I was wondering who out there can give me some help.  I > have picked up so many great ideas from this group.  I was also wondering if > anybody had any tips on feeling comfortable while wearing a bathing suit and > swimming.  Especially those water parks. > Even though I am old hat at this ostomy thing, I am always open to new ideas. . > Please feel free to e-mail me as well as post to the group. > Thanks, > Lori > CD class of 1980

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>Do Eakins seals work with Hollister products or is this a different line?

i use eakin seals with hollister new image 2 pieces and i don’t have any problems.  you can use eakin seals with anything, even tho they’re distrubuted by convatec. Lauren! (take out the "nojunk" to reply) beer drinking, sax playing, baseball junkie on a rampage … beware!

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I, too, often vacation in Florida in the summer. It will help to wear light colored clothing — pants, shorts, skirts, etc. They don’t absorb nearly as much heat from sunlight. When I go swimming, or when I am in a situation where I want to make doubly certain I don’t have problems with a leak, I wear a Nu-Hope elastic belt. It is a belt designed for ostomates with hernias, but can be very useful even for people without hernias.The belt is wider than a wafer, with a hole in it that is sized to fit the flange on the wafer. It presses the wafer firmly against the abdomen, ensuring a tight seal. Although I don’t have a hernia, I use the belt when swimming to ensure I don’t get a leak. Nu-Hope sells both cotton and quick drying mesh version of the belt. I also heard of one person who paints his wafer with Skin Bond and successfully went in hot tubs. Enjoy Disney World. Be sure to drink plenty of liquids so you don’t get dehydrated.

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Been off the computer for over a week (away) and just saw this.  I hope that I can give some folks worried about the heat some assurance. First, I have lived all over Florida in the last 32 years ( Orlando – -> Port Charlotte (SW coast) – - > Bradenton – - > Tallahassee – - > and now Pensacola.  In this 32 years I have NEVER acclimatized to the heat and if I do anything outdoors even remotely strenuous, I perspire like a racehorse.  I have used both Convatec and now am using Hollister, and I routinely get from 7 to 9 days wear out of a wafer with very few mishaps.  Maybe I’m just lucky, but my skin gets somewhat oily when I perspire, and I still have very few problems with my appliance.  I wish I could export some of this to those who experience difficulty keeping ostomy gear in place in the heat, but as we all know, our individual bodies dictate what happens.  Eakin seals are a good solution though even these give some folks problems when they breakdown and gum up the pouches, or if the problem is severe enough, think of using a medical adhesive spray that Hollister sells.  I think that stuff works under water. — PcolaPhil "Even if you are on the right track you will get run over if you just sit there,"                           —Will Rogers "Actually34" <actuall…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20030608122030.23582.00000245@mb-m10.aol.com… | I, too, often vacation in Florida in the summer. | | It will help to wear light colored clothing — pants, shorts, skirts, etc. They | don’t absorb nearly as much heat from sunlight. | | When I go swimming, or when I am in a situation where I want to make doubly | certain I don’t have problems with a leak, I wear a Nu-Hope elastic belt. | | It is a belt designed for ostomates with hernias, but can be very useful even | for people without hernias.The belt is wider than a wafer, with a hole in it | that is sized to fit the flange on the wafer. It presses the wafer firmly | against the abdomen, ensuring a tight seal. | | Although I don’t have a hernia, I use the belt when swimming to ensure I don’t | get a leak. Nu-Hope sells both cotton and quick drying mesh version of the | belt. | | I also heard of one person who paints his wafer with Skin Bond and successfully | went in hot tubs. | | Enjoy Disney World. Be sure to drink plenty of liquids so you don’t get | dehydrated. | | | | |

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