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Land of Milk and Honey
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Hi my name is also Lori, and I just had a colostomy. your post caught my eye because of our similiarities. I live in Texas, and have also lead an active life. With 5 children from 33-16 someday I will be a grandparent also, as I understand it both my married children are working on it. I also do volunteer work. For the past 6 years I have been working with the elderly. I probably would not have known much about colonostomies before that. I guess I was being prepared for what lie ahead for me. I enjoy painting and my talking to my children on line. Getting back to your question a "land of milk & honey" does come from the bible Exodus 3:8 refered to Canaan . This was assuring the Israelites they would not only have their needs met but their wants as well this pictured the millenial reign of Christ. That familiar Kingdom prayed for in the Lords Prayer, where we ask for Gods Kingdom to come to earth as it is in heaven. In this Kingdom all of man’s needs, phisical and spiritual would be met. This was the original purpose of God creating man in the first place. to live forever in peace and health. This will soon come about and if we take in knowledge of God and Christ we will be a part of that Kingdom and enter the Land of Milk & Honey" Matthew 6:9-10 ; Daniel 2:44; Psalms 37:9-11, 29, 34 and John 17:3 and Revelation 21:3,4. If you would like to learn more or have any questions I Would be glad to help you. Sincerely, Lori .
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Bill, Bless you for calling me young 
Susan R. bill…@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<6v1hm8$qr…@nnrp1.dejanews.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Paul, When you have contributed 1/10 th the advise and wisdom as contributed >by Barbara. Susan, Crystal and several other young ladies on this group, you >may havbe cause to complain… It is very easy to hit the delete button on >any thing you might not like to be "exposed" to.. Keep your cool!!!!!!! >Bill (U) >In article <6v01vm$86…@winter.news.erols.com>, > "Susan Reed" <noe…@erols.com> wrote: >> Gee Paul that was rather harsh on your part. Remember you can always move >> along if you don’t agree. I believe the original poster does acknowledge the >> Susan R. >> PaulR95 wrote in message <19981001075719.17715.00007…@ng66.aol.com>… >> >Alaskana_…@my-dejanews.com wrote: >> >>In today’s world, yes, there is a "Promised Land." It’s that ultimate >> gift >> >>we >> >>receive when we follow Jesus. >> >Oh, come on! This is not a religion newsgroup and no one was asking about >> some >> >mythical "promised land". Please keep your drivel out of this newsgroup >> and >> >let’s keep on topic. >> >Paul >———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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C’mon folks–get off Crystal’s back. I mean, she lives in ALASKA! Land of frozen milk and honey cubes…. John
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In article <19981002205230.29915.00002…@ng55.aol.com>, fcat…@aol.com (Fcattus) wrote: > C’mon folks–get off Crystal’s back. I mean, she lives in ALASKA! Land of > frozen milk and honey cubes…. > John
<LOL> And I’ll bet you don’t know how hard or how heavy a frozen gallon of milk is either. <LOL> Thanks, John, I just couldn’t resist that one. <ggg> Crystal ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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"How Heavy is it?" says the heckler in the back. Alaskana_…@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<6v4et2$8s…@nnrp1.dejanews.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->In article <19981002205230.29915.00002…@ng55.aol.com>, > fcat…@aol.com (Fcattus) wrote: >> C’mon folks–get off Crystal’s back. I mean, she lives in ALASKA! Land of >> frozen milk and honey cubes…. >> John ><LOL> And I’ll bet you don’t know how hard or how heavy a frozen gallon of >milk is either. <LOL> Thanks, John, I just couldn’t resist that one. <ggg> >Crystal >———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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In article <6v5npj…@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, "T & D" <ton…@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > "How Heavy is it?" says the heckler in the back.
Well, here, I’ll throw one at ya’ and you can find out. Ka-FWUMP!!!!!! <LOL Crystal ;o) ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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Lori I don’t know if they’re being facetious or not, but a lot of people refer to Australia as the Land of Milk and Honey! (among other things). Going by my limited knowledge of the world, I reckon "they" are pretty close the mark and that we are indeed the "lucky country". Don’t know if this helps with your query … Cheers Anne
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Paul, When you have contributed 1/10 th the advise and wisdom as contributed by Barbara. Susan, Crystal and several other young ladies on this group, you may havbe cause to complain… It is very easy to hit the delete button on any thing you might not like to be "exposed" to.. Keep your cool!!!!!!! Bill (U) In article <6v01vm$86…@winter.news.erols.com>, "Susan Reed" <noe…@erols.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Gee Paul that was rather harsh on your part. Remember you can always move > along if you don’t agree. I believe the original poster does acknowledge the > Susan R. > PaulR95 wrote in message <19981001075719.17715.00007…@ng66.aol.com>… > >Alaskana_…@my-dejanews.com wrote: > >>In today’s world, yes, there is a "Promised Land." It’s that ultimate > gift > >>we > >>receive when we follow Jesus. > >Oh, come on! This is not a religion newsgroup and no one was asking about > some > >mythical "promised land". Please keep your drivel out of this newsgroup > and > >let’s keep on topic. > >Paul
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<psheffi…@earthlink.net wrote: >And by the way, both of you are "forcing" the others in this newsgroup >to confront your beliefs by having your argument publicly in this forum. >In other words, please take it outside >Patrick Sheffield
You are absolutely correct, sir. I apologize to you and to the group as a whole for taking up bandwidth. This should have been a private conversation. Please do not take my remarks to mean that I wish to disparage Crystal in any way. Differences aside, I think that she has been a wonderful addition to this forum. Paul
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The "Land of Milk and Honey" that would be "Almost Heaven West Virginia"
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My name is Lori and i have an ileostomy and have to be on 2 bags of IV everynight due to my short bowel syndrome. I live in Canada, lead an active, and I hope, productive life, am a grandmother, do volunteer work for people with disabilities, enjoy bridge, people, music and my cat. I have a question which has nothing to do with ostomies, but something that has peeked my curiosity today. Maybe someone in this group can provide an answer. I am asking this question seriously, and am not trying to pull anyone’s leg. Is there an area or place known as "The Land of Milk and Honey". I think in the bible it is in reference to the "Promised Land". But in today’s world, is there an actual place? Any comments you can make about this will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Lori lorrr…@concentric.net
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Lori, The reference from the Bible you are probably refering to is the land of Canaan or "promised land". It is the land promised to Abraham when he made his covenant to the Lord. In the below reference the Lord is speaking of taking the children of Israel (descendants of Abraham – Isaac – Jacob) out of bondage in Egypt and giving them the land of Canaan. The phrase "Milk and Honey" is referenced 20 times in the Bible. Physically land of Canaan is the territory between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River reaching from the brook of Egypt to the area around Ugarit in Syria or to the Euphrates. Today it is roughly the area of Syria and Jordan. Exodus 3:7 And the LORD said, I have surely seen the affliction of my people which are in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason of their taskmasters; for I know their sorrows; 8 And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites. 9 Now therefore, behold, the cry of the children of Israel is come unto me: and I have also seen the oppression wherewith the Egyptians oppress them. 10 Come now therefore, and I will send thee unto Pharaoh, that thou mayest bring forth my people the children of Israel out of Egypt. 11 And Moses said unto God, Who am I, that I should go unto Pharaoh, and that I should bring forth the children of Israel out of Egypt? 12 And he said, Certainly I will be with thee; and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain. 13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. 15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. 16 Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say unto them, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared unto me, saying, I have surely visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt: 17 And I have said, I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt unto the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, unto a land flowing with milk and honey. 18 And they shall hearken to thy voice: and thou shalt come, thou and the elders of Israel, unto the king of Egypt, and ye shall say unto him, The LORD God of the Hebrews hath met with us: and now let us go, we beseech thee, three days’ journey into the wilderness, that we may sacrifice to the LORD our God. 19 And I am sure that the king of Egypt will not let you go, no, not by a mighty hand. 20 And I will stretch out my hand, and smite Egypt with all my wonders which I will do in the midst thereof: and after that he will let you go. 21 And I will give this people favour in the sight of the Egyptians: and it shall come to pass, that, when ye go, ye shall not go empty: 22 But every woman shall borrow of her neighbour, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and ye shall put them upon your sons, and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the Egyptians. This is long, but I hope it helps. Tonya
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Perhapsw we could reserve this space for real discussion rather than trying to correct perceived minor lapses? Heaven knows, we get enought stuff posted along the lines of NUDE TEENS WITH MANATEES–LIVE!! more worthy of denouncing! John
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On 01-Oct-98 15:01:06, Alaskana_Gal wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <19981001143733.12822.00008…@ng67.aol.com>, > paul…@aol.com (PaulR95) wrote: >> As you have a right to disagree with me, I also have a right to disagree wit >> you. The fact that you answered to the newsgroup instead of e-mailing the >> questioner directly makes your response subject to criticism. I happen to >> feel that you used this forum inappropriately by spewing your religion when >> the wording of the question clearly indicated that the questioner was >> looking for a real place. >> Paul > Sorry, Paul, but I did’t "spew" my religion. I just answered the question as > I believe the Bible to state it. I’ve never forced my beliefs on anyone here > in this forum, and I won’t. I just answered a question publically that was > posed publically. I believe heaven is a real place, and if you don’t, that’s > your choice. But I never did force my religion, if you want to call it that, > on you. I’ve never used this forum "inappropriately" and I never will. But > to tell me to answer a public post privately is way out of line. If it’s > posted publically, I have every right to answer publically. Period. > Crystal
Okay, all religious issues aside and without regard to the whereabouts of heaven, hell /or/ the land of milk and honey, two wrongs do not make a right (but 2 Wrights made an airplane). Seriously, the question, while valid, should not have been posted to this newsgroup any more than if I posted a question as to where the closest Dairy Queen was. The fact that is was posted does not change the topic of this forum from alt.support.ostomy and responses probably should have been directed via private email. If I stood up in church and said "Hey, does anybody know how I can deal with skin irritation around my stoma?" I don’t think that would make it appropriate for someone to respond in church simply because I posed the question there. And by the way, both of you are "forcing" the others in this newsgroup to confront your beliefs by having your argument publicly in this forum. In other words, please take it outside Patrick Sheffield
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In article <19981001143733.12822.00008…@ng67.aol.com>, paul…@aol.com (PaulR95) wrote: > As you have a right to disagree with me, I also have a right to disagree with > you. The fact that you answered to the newsgroup instead of e-mailing the > questioner directly makes your response subject to criticism. I happen to feel > that you used this forum inappropriately by spewing your religion when the > wording of the question clearly indicated that the questioner was looking for a > real place. > Paul
Sorry, Paul, but I did’t "spew" my religion. I just answered the question as I believe the Bible to state it. I’ve never forced my beliefs on anyone here in this forum, and I won’t. I just answered a question publically that was posed publically. I believe heaven is a real place, and if you don’t, that’s your choice. But I never did force my religion, if you want to call it that, on you. I’ve never used this forum "inappropriately" and I never will. But to tell me to answer a public post privately is way out of line. If it’s posted publically, I have every right to answer publically. Period. Crystal ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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Alaskana_…@my-dejanews.com wrote: >Sorry you don’t agree, but I wasn’t speaking to you. Someone else posed a >question, and I answered it for that person.
As you have a right to disagree with me, I also have a right to disagree with you. The fact that you answered to the newsgroup instead of e-mailing the questioner directly makes your response subject to criticism. I happen to feel that you used this forum inappropriately by spewing your religion when the wording of the question clearly indicated that the questioner was looking for a real place. Paul
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In article <19981001075719.17715.00007…@ng66.aol.com>, paul…@aol.com (PaulR95) wrote: > Alaskana_…@my-dejanews.com wrote: > >In today’s world, yes, there is a "Promised Land." It’s that ultimate gift > >we > >receive when we follow Jesus. > Oh, come on! This is not a religion newsgroup and no one was asking about some > mythical "promised land". Please keep your drivel out of this newsgroup and > let’s keep on topic. > Paul
Sorry you don’t agree, but I wasn’t speaking to you. Someone else posed a question, and I answered it for that person. If you don’t like the answer, that’s your choice. But don’t blast me for making an honest answer to a question that was posed on this group. I’ve been an active participant here in this group always answering questions honestly and helping where I can. I’ve made many a friend here, and I do think they respect the advice I give. Yes, the question wasn’t the subject of ostomies, but the question was posed and I answered it. Read on if you don’t want to read about the subject. Crystal ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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Gee Paul that was rather harsh on your part. Remember you can always move along if you don’t agree. I believe the original poster does acknowledge the bible’s ‘Land of Milk and Honey’ but wants to know if there is a modern day ‘Land of Milk and Honey’. I don’t know if there is but perhaps some one else can answer that. Susan R. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -PaulR95 wrote in message <19981001075719.17715.00007…@ng66.aol.com>… >Alaskana_…@my-dejanews.com wrote: >>In today’s world, yes, there is a "Promised Land." It’s that ultimate gift >>we >>receive when we follow Jesus. >Oh, come on! This is not a religion newsgroup and no one was asking about some >mythical "promised land". Please keep your drivel out of this newsgroup and >let’s keep on topic. >Paul
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Alaskana_…@my-dejanews.com wrote: >In today’s world, yes, there is a "Promised Land." It’s that ultimate gift >we >receive when we follow Jesus.
Oh, come on! This is not a religion newsgroup and no one was asking about some mythical "promised land". Please keep your drivel out of this newsgroup and let’s keep on topic. Paul
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In article <01bdece0$d4ad5280$6bf6adce@lrobb>, "LorrRobb" <lorrr…@concentric.net> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My name is Lori and i have an ileostomy and have to be on 2 bags of IV > everynight due to my short bowel syndrome. I live in Canada, lead an > active, and I hope, productive life, am a grandmother, do volunteer work > for people with disabilities, enjoy bridge, people, music and my cat. > I have a question which has nothing to do with ostomies, but something that > has peeked my curiosity today. Maybe someone in this group can provide an > answer. I am asking this question seriously, and am not trying to pull > anyone’s leg. > Is there an area or place known as "The Land of Milk and Honey". I think > in the bible it is in reference to the "Promised Land". But in today’s > world, is there an actual place? > Any comments you can make about this will be greatly appreciated. Thanks > in advance. > Lori > lorrr…@concentric.net
Hi, Lori. In today’s world, yes, there is a "Promised Land." It’s that ultimate gift we receive when we follow Jesus. He has promised us eternal life if we follow him. And so when we die, we don’t die, but we go to that "Promised Land" to live with Jesus forevermore. Take care, Crystal ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own