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Hello Mary Stomahesive paste will always sting because of the alcohol. I don’t know if the Coloplast paste strips are avalable in your country. It has no alcohol in it! Henk Beekhuizen Mary Campos schreef: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Everyone, What is your experience after changing your appliance?  I have > an Ileostomy. When I get ready to apply my flange with the stomahesive > applied to the back and stick that baby around my stoma, YIKES!!!!!  It > stings even though I wait one minute after applying the stomahesive to the > flange, for the alcohol to dissapate in the air or whatever it does.  It has > always stung since I can remember.  It’s doesn’t last and it only lets you > know it is there with stinging but does this happen to any one else?  Is > there anything I can do?  No big deal, just wondering. > Peace and Health, > Mary Campos > Homepage  http://www.intertek.net/~mcampos > ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- > http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Candy Moran wrote in message … >Try dipping  a cotton bud in water to dampen it and use it to apply paste >candy

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When I was still using paste (pre Eakin Seals days), to help the paste spread thin I would leave the tube in a glass of hot water spouty end down till I was ready to use it.  This tended to thin it so I could put a thin layer down.  I discovered very early that when you do this a) don’t apply it directly to the skin from the tube and b) wait for it to cool on the wafer before applying to skin (which also meant that the alchohol had evaporated). Romane JBLazar <jbla…@aol.com> wrote in article <19990226023809.12471.00000…@ngol06.aol.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The stinging is probably due to the alcohol.  How much paste are you using.  If > you use a thick band, one minute would not be enough time for the alcohol to > evaporate.  You are only supposed to use a very thin band around the inner edge > of the flange.  However, the tubes of paste don’t put out a thin band very > easily, and the paste doesn’t stick well to the flange.  So this is difficult > to do.  

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Hello Mary,  I had the same problem when I was trying to settle into a routine. I bought a handful of Eakin seals on the advice of someone in the group and haven’t had to bother with stomahesive since. I just cut strips and use them to seal the opening in the flange. A lot less trouble and I’ve about doubled my wear time. Good luck, Ernie Fullerton, CA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Mary Campos wrote: > Hi Everyone, What is your experience after changing your appliance?  I have > an Ileostomy. When I get ready to apply my flange with the stomahesive > applied to the back and stick that baby around my stoma, YIKES!!!!!  It > stings even though I wait one minute after applying the stomahesive to the > flange, for the alcohol to dissapate in the air or whatever it does.  It has > always stung since I can remember.  It’s doesn’t last and it only lets you > know it is there with stinging but does this happen to any one else?  Is > there anything I can do?  No big deal, just wondering. > Peace and Health, > Mary Campos > Homepage  http://www.intertek.net/~mcampos > ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- > http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

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In article <7b2fl2$rn…@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,   Mary Campos <mcam…@intertek.net> wrote: > Hi Everyone, What is your experience after changing your appliance?  I have > an Ileostomy. When I get ready to apply my flange with the stomahesive > applied to the back and stick that baby around my stoma, YIKES!!!!!  It > stings even though I wait one minute after applying the stomahesive to the > flange, for the alcohol to dissapate in the air or whatever it does.  It has > always stung since I can remember.  It’s doesn’t last and it only lets you > know it is there with stinging but does this happen to any one else?  Is > there anything I can do?  No big deal, just wondering.

It’s probably the alcohol in the paste. It sounds like you are already waiting a minute to put it on, not much more you can do. Barbara Skoglund (I) Barbara.A.Skoglun…@tc.umn.edu ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own    

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Hi Mary, You didn’t mention if you have any redness, etc., in the peristomal area. That could also be a cause of the stinging. (I don’t get pain when I change my appliance, I itch :>o)  It’s lessened since I started using a coil of Eakin seal around the stoma…applied directly to the peristmoal area. Just a thought. Ann Life is a trip you don’t pack for!

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Pelican do an alcohol free paste – not as effective an adhesive but doesnt sting candy

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Hi Mary, I have an ileostomy too, usually I get some mild stinging  after applying faceplate. It goes away qucikly and hasn’t caused any problem. Gary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Mary Campos wrote: > Hi Everyone, What is your experience after changing your appliance?  I have > an Ileostomy. When I get ready to apply my flange with the stomahesive > applied to the back and stick that baby around my stoma, YIKES!!!!!  It > stings even though I wait one minute after applying the stomahesive to the > flange, for the alcohol to dissapate in the air or whatever it does.  It has > always stung since I can remember.  It’s doesn’t last and it only lets you > know it is there with stinging but does this happen to any one else?  Is > there anything I can do?  No big deal, just wondering. > Peace and Health, > Mary Campos > Homepage  http://www.intertek.net/~mcampos > ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- > http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

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I have less stinging using the Coloplast caulk. The representative at the "show and tell" at our ostomy meeting said it contained less alcohol, stings less, and doesn’t harden as fast in the tube because there is less alcohol in the product to escape.     Sometimes I also put the caulk on the wafer when I first start, even before I take the old pouch off, and it’s 10 minutes before I put the new flange with paste, on my stoma. Doesn’t seem to reduce wear time, and it hardens a bit, making it much less sticky to take my finger and form a nice circle of caulk around the flange opening. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Mary Campos wrote: > Hi Everyone, What is your experience after changing your appliance?  I have > an Ileostomy. When I get ready to apply my flange with the stomahesive > applied to the back and stick that baby around my stoma, YIKES!!!!!  It > stings even though I wait one minute after applying the stomahesive to the > flange, for the alcohol to dissapate in the air or whatever it does.  It has > always stung since I can remember.  It’s doesn’t last and it only lets you > know it is there with stinging but does this happen to any one else?  Is > there anything I can do?  No big deal, just wondering. > Peace and Health, > Mary Campos > Homepage  http://www.intertek.net/~mcampos > ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- > http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

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Suggest you might try applying a "barier" preparation … I have used both ALLKare (Convatec) and No Sting Barrier Film (3M). I use the above products … have sensitive skin … have absolutely no stinging problems with the wafer.

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In article <7b2fl2$rn…@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,   Mary Campos <mcam…@intertek.net> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Everyone, What is your experience after changing your appliance?  I have > an Ileostomy. When I get ready to apply my flange with the stomahesive > applied to the back and stick that baby around my stoma, YIKES!!!!!  It > stings even though I wait one minute after applying the stomahesive to the > flange, for the alcohol to dissapate in the air or whatever it does.  It has > always stung since I can remember.  It’s doesn’t last and it only lets you > know it is there with stinging but does this happen to any one else?  Is > there anything I can do?  No big deal, just wondering. > Peace and Health, > Mary Campos > Homepage  http://www.intertek.net/~mcampos > ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- > http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

THANKS EVERYONE!  I got allot of good ideas here.  I’m going to check with my E.T. nurse to see about some of these suggestions. B-T-W, I use a ConvaTec SurFit (2-piece drainable) and SurFit Flexible Flange with Stomahesive and skin barrier wipes before I apply the flange.  My skin is in good condition. It’s good for about 4-5 days with no problems.  Except the stinging in the stoma when I first apply the flange. Thanks again and if you think of anything else, please post or e-mail. Mary Campos Homepage  http://www.intertek.net/~mcampos ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own    

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I have the same problem.  I use stomahesive paste also. I have a little bit of a breakdown around my stoma. The skin their is a lttle raw and I think that’s why I get the stinging when I apply the wafer. I just hold my breath for about 30 seconds and it goes away quickly but it is a shock at first! nancy

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The stinging is probably due to the alcohol.  How much paste are you using.  If you use a thick band, one minute would not be enough time for the alcohol to evaporate.  You are only supposed to use a very thin band around the inner edge of the flange.  However, the tubes of paste don’t put out a thin band very easily, and the paste doesn’t stick well to the flange.  So this is difficult to do.   Mine stings, too, but goes away after a minute or so.  I actually think it is a good thing, since it means there is alcohol there to sterilize the area right around the stoma.  This might aid in preventing infections.  Just a thought. Bill (I)

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Hi Everyone, What is your experience after changing your appliance?  I have an Ileostomy. When I get ready to apply my flange with the stomahesive applied to the back and stick that baby around my stoma, YIKES!!!!!  It stings even though I wait one minute after applying the stomahesive to the flange, for the alcohol to dissapate in the air or whatever it does.  It has always stung since I can remember.  It’s doesn’t last and it only lets you know it is there with stinging but does this happen to any one else?  Is there anything I can do?  No big deal, just wondering. Peace and Health, Mary Campos Homepage  http://www.intertek.net/~mcampos ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own    

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  Mary Campos <mcam…@intertek.net> wrote: > Hi Everyone, What is your experience after changing your appliance?  I have > an Ileostomy. When I get ready to apply my flange with the stomahesive > applied to the back and stick that baby around my stoma, YIKES!!!!!  It > stings even though I wait one minute after applying the stomahesive to the > flange, for the alcohol to dissapate in the air or whatever it does.  It has > always stung since I can remember.  It’s doesn’t last and it only lets you > know it is there with stinging but does this happen to any one else?  Is > there anything I can do?  No big deal, just wondering. > Peace and Health,

Thats sounds a bit painful Mary. Have you tried a different product e.g. a different stomahesive, or a different flange. I don’t know if it’s the paste you use that causes the sting or the flange itself. I’m guessing it’s a one piece appliance.Those I’m not to familar with but it might pay to get some sample products from the different companies to find a solution. It’s certainly a problem you don’t need. John Harman(I) ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own    

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